Comments on: Quotable http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4 Pontification without all the gritty gravitas Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:16:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Tozier http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4/comment-page-1#comment-51709 Tozier Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:03:19 +0000 http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4#comment-51709 Later, @britta, I find <blockquote>It seems to have been overlooked while we are all analytically falling at Shakespeare's feet, that Shakespeare did not become Shakespeare by analytically falling at any one's feet--not even at his own--and that the most important difference between being a Shakespeare and being an analyser of Shakespeare is that with the man Shakespeare no submitting of himself to the analysis-gymnast would ever have been possible, and with the students of Shakespeare (as students go and if they are caught young enough) the habit of analysis is not only a possibility but a sleek, industrious, and complacent certainty.</blockquote> Later, @britta, I find
It seems to have been overlooked while we are all analytically falling at Shakespeare’s feet, that Shakespeare did not become Shakespeare by analytically falling at any one’s feet–not even at his own–and that the most important difference between being a Shakespeare and being an analyser of Shakespeare is that with the man Shakespeare no submitting of himself to the analysis-gymnast would ever have been possible, and with the students of Shakespeare (as students go and if they are caught young enough) the habit of analysis is not only a possibility but a sleek, industrious, and complacent certainty.

]]> By: Tozier http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4/comment-page-1#comment-51705 Tozier Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:41 +0000 http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4#comment-51705 Yes, those were quotes from Lee as well. I was proofing this book at <a href="http://pgdp.net" rel="nofollow">Distributed Proofreaders</a>. And of course Lee's point is to be ironic. Go page through the Google Book Search edition until we release the Gutenberg electronic version, and I think you'll understand the irony. Yes, those were quotes from Lee as well. I was proofing this book at Distributed Proofreaders.

And of course Lee’s point is to be ironic. Go page through the Google Book Search edition until we release the Gutenberg electronic version, and I think you’ll understand the irony.

]]> By: Nic McPhee http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4/comment-page-1#comment-51704 Nic McPhee Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:37:02 +0000 http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4#comment-51704 What an amazing quote! Was the bit you posted on twitter about civilization being the dust we scuffle also from this fellow? Remarkable stuff, remarkable stuff. Love the bit about "babies are supposed to get over it" :-). If artists and poets really only count after they're dead, does that actually make them any less important? What an amazing quote! Was the bit you posted on twitter about civilization being the dust we scuffle also from this fellow? Remarkable stuff, remarkable stuff. Love the bit about “babies are supposed to get over it” :-) .

If artists and poets really only count after they’re dead, does that actually make them any less important?

]]> By: Tozier http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4/comment-page-1#comment-51703 Tozier Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:54:02 +0000 http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4#comment-51703 With the fillip that Lee (over and over, in many books, and in interminable and convoluted sentences that reek of tangential poetry, or at least some species of hand-waving hypnotic glorious oratory) suggests there is a tiny minority who can <i>step aside</i>, have time to sit and read and think, and manage to stop trying to make a living in the patriarchal power system---or I suppose in the matriarchal social categorization and subtle all-nurturing dynamic, if we're talking Long Ago---and live instead. In a way it's just "kids these days" and "can't we all just get along" and "things are gone all to hell" all over again... but he does it gloriously. With the fillip that Lee (over and over, in many books, and in interminable and convoluted sentences that reek of tangential poetry, or at least some species of hand-waving hypnotic glorious oratory) suggests there is a tiny minority who can step aside, have time to sit and read and think, and manage to stop trying to make a living in the patriarchal power system—or I suppose in the matriarchal social categorization and subtle all-nurturing dynamic, if we’re talking Long Ago—and live instead.

In a way it’s just “kids these days” and “can’t we all just get along” and “things are gone all to hell” all over again… but he does it gloriously.

]]> By: britta http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4/comment-page-1#comment-51702 britta Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:40:02 +0000 http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2007/11/09/quotable-4#comment-51702 my shakespeare professor would say that's a description of a classic patriarchal power system -- the dominant/empowered men negotiating with each other for more power, the children waiting to enter that hierarchy, and the emergent artists/poets/tramps biting away at the edges and mostly (mostly) getting contained by the dominant. my shakespeare professor would say that’s a description of a classic patriarchal power system — the dominant/empowered men negotiating with each other for more power, the children waiting to enter that hierarchy, and the emergent artists/poets/tramps biting away at the edges and mostly (mostly) getting contained by the dominant.

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