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		<title>By: Where&#8217;s power? &#171; blog2sync</title>
		<link>http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2009/03/16/hey-i-checked-our-records/comment-page-1#comment-54370</link>
		<dc:creator>Where&#8217;s power? &#171; blog2sync</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By Brian Hayes  Ann Arbor change agent William Tozier rants about &#8216;the good people&#8217; that surround our localities and suburbs &#8211; marketers and agents and landlords and bankers and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Where&#8217;s power? &#171; Thought Shop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where&#8217;s power? &#171; Thought Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By Brian Hayes  Ann Arbor change agent William Tozier rants about &#8216;the good people&#8217; that surround our localities and suburbs &#8211; marketers and agents and landlords and bankers and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hey, I checked our records. You didn’t say you wanted a revolution after all. Sorry! at Maszman Speaks!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey, I checked our records. You didn’t say you wanted a revolution after all. Sorry! at Maszman Speaks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Slurry on the clash of geeks and old-school business people. He doesn&#8217;t demonize the suits: I hate to stand alone against the stream of bigoted invective [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#8250; A Slurry of the Miscellaneous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#8250; A Slurry of the Miscellaneous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] beautiful essay where in the middleman rants at his dear good friends on both sides of the divide he bridges.  A good example of both how the middleman is always struggling with how to frame how [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tozier</title>
		<link>http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2009/03/16/hey-i-checked-our-records/comment-page-1#comment-53904</link>
		<dc:creator>Tozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,

The problems with the SPARK are numerous, and primarily cultural. They&#039;re embarrassing to have around.

They show an almost total inability to participate in modern online discourse. Their &quot;blog&quot; is ridiculous, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.annarborusa.org/?p=98&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post about &quot;Open Source Economic Development&quot;&lt;/a&gt; would be an insult to anybody who&#039;s ever done real open source work if it weren&#039;t so laughably framed,  the site is updated months late, the boot camps and facilities they run are fine (as you say) for people who are on the mainstream track. If an intellectual property lawyer ever actually looked at their &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.annarborspark.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;news items&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, which they lift by &lt;i&gt;cut and paste&lt;/i&gt; from other publications and present as if they were their own, they&#039;d be up to their eyeballs in lawsuits; and I bet they don&#039;t even know it.

And so on the whole they produce bog-standard marketing copy and Press Releases and businesses using tried-and-true old-school habits. Boring crap.

No offense to your own startup effort, but the SPARK claims to be able to foster the &quot;next Google&quot;, when in fact &lt;i&gt;in my personal experience&lt;/i&gt; the organization is managed as if it were Henry Ford pumping out black Model T&#039;s. No real innovation can ever happen there, as far as I can tell.

Of course they manage to do some good, at least for people that fit their mental models, their recognized business models. And before you assume, this isn&#039;t some kind of sour grapes on my part.

My opinion is what comes from watching the premature fast-track vulture investment and lazy old boy network of &quot;mentoring staff&quot; grind useful, interesting young business people with great ideas into mealy, zombie startups.

Or do you want to hear what I &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,</p>
<p>The problems with the SPARK are numerous, and primarily cultural. They&#8217;re embarrassing to have around.</p>
<p>They show an almost total inability to participate in modern online discourse. Their &#8220;blog&#8221; is ridiculous, <a href="http://blog.annarborusa.org/?p=98" rel="nofollow">this post about &#8220;Open Source Economic Development&#8221;</a> would be an insult to anybody who&#8217;s ever done real open source work if it weren&#8217;t so laughably framed,  the site is updated months late, the boot camps and facilities they run are fine (as you say) for people who are on the mainstream track. If an intellectual property lawyer ever actually looked at their <a href="http://news.annarborspark.org/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;news items&#8221;</a>, which they lift by <i>cut and paste</i> from other publications and present as if they were their own, they&#8217;d be up to their eyeballs in lawsuits; and I bet they don&#8217;t even know it.</p>
<p>And so on the whole they produce bog-standard marketing copy and Press Releases and businesses using tried-and-true old-school habits. Boring crap.</p>
<p>No offense to your own startup effort, but the SPARK claims to be able to foster the &#8220;next Google&#8221;, when in fact <i>in my personal experience</i> the organization is managed as if it were Henry Ford pumping out black Model T&#8217;s. No real innovation can ever happen there, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>Of course they manage to do some good, at least for people that fit their mental models, their recognized business models. And before you assume, this isn&#8217;t some kind of sour grapes on my part.</p>
<p>My opinion is what comes from watching the premature fast-track vulture investment and lazy old boy network of &#8220;mentoring staff&#8221; grind useful, interesting young business people with great ideas into mealy, zombie startups.</p>
<p>Or do you want to hear what I <i>really</i> think?</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Esmonde-White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Esmonde-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.

I&#039;m not sure what they issue with SPARK is. I haven&#039;t been to any CofC events, but the SPARK events have been appropriate and helpful to me starting a business in the (bio/micro/nano) tech sector. They&#039;re also quite affordable (doubly so if you work through the University).

Back to the reason I visited your blog... I think the DDA parking-structure-data-shakedown is just silly. There is no reason I can conceive which would lead the DDA or republic parking to benefit - in *ANY* way from cutting this data off. I think the only thing Susan Pollay can point to in support of wanting to cut off the data flow is the snarky response letter.

Arg. Is anyone else planning to go to the next DDA meeting to voice their objections to this unfortunate decision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what they issue with SPARK is. I haven&#8217;t been to any CofC events, but the SPARK events have been appropriate and helpful to me starting a business in the (bio/micro/nano) tech sector. They&#8217;re also quite affordable (doubly so if you work through the University).</p>
<p>Back to the reason I visited your blog&#8230; I think the DDA parking-structure-data-shakedown is just silly. There is no reason I can conceive which would lead the DDA or republic parking to benefit &#8211; in *ANY* way from cutting this data off. I think the only thing Susan Pollay can point to in support of wanting to cut off the data flow is the snarky response letter.</p>
<p>Arg. Is anyone else planning to go to the next DDA meeting to voice their objections to this unfortunate decision?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Crawford</title>
		<link>http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2009/03/16/hey-i-checked-our-records/comment-page-1#comment-53902</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget which interview it was, but Adrian Holovaty, django creator and founder of many mashups, was asked what to do with the folks providing the public data, and what he said was &quot;BE NICE TO THEM.&quot;

The brittleness of public data sources is a problem, not just for the technical reasons (though there are those) but because of the political reasons.

Great essay, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I wish you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forget which interview it was, but Adrian Holovaty, django creator and founder of many mashups, was asked what to do with the folks providing the public data, and what he said was &#8220;BE NICE TO THEM.&#8221;</p>
<p>The brittleness of public data sources is a problem, not just for the technical reasons (though there are those) but because of the political reasons.</p>
<p>Great essay, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I wish you well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks for March 16th through March 17th &#60; LostFocus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks for March 16th through March 17th &#60; LostFocus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brilliant analysis on geek vs. suits culture clashes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brilliant analysis on geek vs. suits culture clashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from here: But it brings the two cultures together in what are probably the worst possible circumstances: The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ann Arbor Smackdown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Arbor Smackdown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are in an uproar (mostly trying to teach the suits what &quot;public domain data&quot; means). This long ass blog post tells the entire tale from both sides of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tozier</title>
		<link>http://williamtozier.com/slurry/2009/03/16/hey-i-checked-our-records/comment-page-1#comment-53895</link>
		<dc:creator>Tozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have capital, Ryan. After all: you&#039;re here. There are six or seven delicious links to this post. Five people have emailed me, there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.twitter.com/search?q=a2dda&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this list of guffaws and outrage developing&lt;/a&gt;.

That would be capital.

There are other kinds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have capital, Ryan. After all: you&#8217;re here. There are six or seven delicious links to this post. Five people have emailed me, there&#8217;s <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=a2dda" rel="nofollow">this list of guffaws and outrage developing</a>.</p>
<p>That would be capital.</p>
<p>There are other kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lanham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lanham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  It makes you wonder.  If this is the story from AA, I&#039;m even further depressed.  It leads anyone with have a brain to move to the San Franciso-Vancouver BC corridor, maybe.

I keep waiting for a watershed event--like Obama&#039;s election.  I keep thinking those guys in the suits will shut up or actually learn something soon that matters.  Nope, not on my end either.  They seem in fact to get stupider.  Nicer too.  

The restructuring of societies requires shattering.  That&#039;s why Clay Shirky&#039;s column was so damn good.  We see cracks now and hope the noise isn&#039;t going to follow but I think what we are currently witnessing is the slow motion disintegration of the past at a pace just slow enough to keep the natives calm.

Soon it will start to get very noisy indeed as the speed reaches toward a general acknowledgment that hell is breaking loose.  I suspect that is within 5 years--maybe 2.

I think it is a good time to lay out the foundations of future enterprises that are radical shifts from the present.  Capital is an issue, but those people will be the survivors and the flourishers going forward.  I suspect the cheery folk in the suits who eat at diners and who go to drab churches on Sunday will be dead meat.  They may already be so.  That&#039;s so hard for people to believe, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  It makes you wonder.  If this is the story from AA, I&#8217;m even further depressed.  It leads anyone with have a brain to move to the San Franciso-Vancouver BC corridor, maybe.</p>
<p>I keep waiting for a watershed event&#8211;like Obama&#8217;s election.  I keep thinking those guys in the suits will shut up or actually learn something soon that matters.  Nope, not on my end either.  They seem in fact to get stupider.  Nicer too.  </p>
<p>The restructuring of societies requires shattering.  That&#8217;s why Clay Shirky&#8217;s column was so damn good.  We see cracks now and hope the noise isn&#8217;t going to follow but I think what we are currently witnessing is the slow motion disintegration of the past at a pace just slow enough to keep the natives calm.</p>
<p>Soon it will start to get very noisy indeed as the speed reaches toward a general acknowledgment that hell is breaking loose.  I suspect that is within 5 years&#8211;maybe 2.</p>
<p>I think it is a good time to lay out the foundations of future enterprises that are radical shifts from the present.  Capital is an issue, but those people will be the survivors and the flourishers going forward.  I suspect the cheery folk in the suits who eat at diners and who go to drab churches on Sunday will be dead meat.  They may already be so.  That&#8217;s so hard for people to believe, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Brandt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Brandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking over the CofC&#039;s list, the only thing that remotely interests me is the health insurance. Everything else is either irrelevant or available elsewhere for much less cost. So what good is the CofC?

I could go on about Spark, but you do that better than I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking over the CofC&#8217;s list, the only thing that remotely interests me is the health insurance. Everything else is either irrelevant or available elsewhere for much less cost. So what good is the CofC?</p>
<p>I could go on about Spark, but you do that better than I.</p>
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